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by Chennai based K.B.Gopalakrishnan

15th April,2007 7:19 pm

The guru stress the common themes which as follows

God is beyond religion.

God is one

There are three kind of guru.

Satellite, servers and towers. The satellites are the original great masters who run the universe, who help humanity to evolve in to higher state of consciousness. The servers are people who are connected with these satellites who are popular and do good work. The towers are the people who take energy from the satellite and make it come through. For example Ramakrishna was a satellite, server is Vivekananda, the towers is the Ramakrishna math. Jesus was a satellite, the apostle- his servers and towers is the current structure of Christianity.

Every guru specializes in certain areas. For example the parmacharya of kanchi was noble in character. Also he was instrumental in the west finding the great Ramana Maharishi. Paul brunton met parmacharya who pointed on Ramana maharishi as the living example of enlightened sage.

Many of them will have various levels of guidance. For example sai baba followers will have two more gurus. They will have a spiritually successful people and an astrologer. When ever guidance comes from these people they will attribute it to sai baba. K.B.Gopalakrishnan has personally helped many sai followers who will attribute any astrological success to sai baba grace.

The lineage is formed by work of three to four great masters. For example Ramakrishna was the founder of the lineage, his second generation disciple worked very hard and the subsequent generations build big ashram. The initial part of any lineage will produce great spiritual genius. For example before the kaygu lineage was formed the first 5 masters were awe some. The great Tilopa, followed by Naropa, Marpa, Milarepa and Gamopa were just brilliant in their powers and meditative ability. The kriya yoga lineage was started by babaji, then the great laharia mahayasa, the great yukteswar giri who were brilliant in there meditative abilities and spiritual gifts. Yogananda parmahamsa was well known for propagation.

People who meditate a lot and who are chosen for meditation will have following problems

  • They would have had some kind of meditation experiences.

  • They would be having deep urge on other worldly subjects.

  • They would have some problems or tragedy in there personal life.

  • Whenever they move into material world, they will be hit with spate of failures.

The works of these spiritual geniuses are very fast. Their followers will slowly assimilate digest and take time to show it to the world. For example the work of chaitanaya mahaprabhu was well captured by the great prabhu pada whose masters would have been great people.

One has guru in two ways. One is the love marriage way where you see and feel a strong pull. The other one is arranged marriage where you search and fix it. One is you fix the guru or in many cases guru fixes you with experiences.

Finally not every one has calling to worldly work. Many people are meant to do sadhana and help people who come on there own. If one realizes this then it is easy to focus on sadhana.

  • Guru are good in certain things

  • some have very good conduct

  • some of them good in sadhana

  • some of them good in powers

  • some of them good in knowledge and discussion.

  • some of them good in marketing .

by Chennai based K.B.Gopalakrishnan

15th April,2007 7:19 pm

For many years I have never bothered to search for guru’s. K.B.Gopalakrishnan always felt that his teacher deshika kirtie was suited for him. Also his deshika was very intense in his tapaysa which impressed him the most. Also K.B.Gopalakrishnan says “Suddenly the ground underneath slipped due to some situations and difficulties. I started praying in the thiruvalli dayam temple in which the great vallar, arungiri swamigal, bharadwaja rishi, hanuman, the child spiritual genius gana samadar had come and prayed”. Following are the channeling material K.B.Gopalakrishnan got which he wanted to share.

There are two types of guru, namely the worldly guru and other worldly guru. First let us deal with the worldly guru. They are large in number; each of them will help followers to attain worldly success in one way or the other. People go to them for marriage child birth, wealth, the 16 ihaka loka sukha. For them minimum sadhana is given like one hour bhajan etc, with no intense meditation. Mostly these gurus are well supported by the masses, have great infra structure like money, ashram, followers, and latest gizmos to propagate there ideas. They also build hospital, educational institutions, and they work like preachers and teachers of the modern spiritual life. Most of them will tell people to enjoy life and be in the family. Example can be Pandit Ravi Shankar, Mata Amritanadya Mayi, Sai Baba etc. Most of these gurus would not be married and right from younger days they would be in this line of helping people. Followers around them will be rich, wealthy and successful.

The second type of guru is other worldly guru. They will be more interested in doing sadhana. They will be aloof, away from the crowd, not very popular among the masses, and have very intense tapayasa. When they give sadhana it will produce results very fast, worldly success of there followers will be limited and they will tell that life is dukha.

K.B.Gopalakrishnan says that most of time the other worldly gurus will resists building ashrams. These gurus’s conduct will be good; their life is itself a message to the world. Some of the followers too get moskha. Also they will stress lot on sanyasa. Example is the great Purshotananda of Vasiata Guha, Swami Viradeswar, and Swami Shantananda Puri. The later two are still living.

When you get these guru, karmic purging will happen which will force you to change conduct and ways of living. All these guru would have hell in the worldly life. Tragedy, failures, problems will be common. God loves them so much he makes their samsara bitter. Followers of these guru will be nobody and ordinary middle class. Ramakrishna paramhamsa made people in to sanayasis, he also was not well known in his life time, and even his disciples like vivekananda had done some kind of tapasya.

Very few can combine both. For example the great bhgawan nityananda could help people materially and produce a good disciple like swami muktananda. Bhagwan sai can do it. But it is my assumption but whether he does it I do not know. Master choa was the finest example of spiritual greatness and mass following.

There are some problems in selecting the guru. When you want god, enlightenment then do not search with the so called popular guru. Mostly it will not be possible for them. When one wants worldly success do not go in for guru who is other worldly. One will have lot of problems and obstacles in life. Doubts on general topics can be discussed with any one. The tricks problems in sadhana and over coming them will be taught only by the other worldly guru. That is mass followers of the worldly guru never ask difficult question. Some joke in the name of discourse. Some kind of lectures will be helpful. Massaging the ego and maintenance of status quo will be common in the worldly guru. When you follow the other worldly guru money and material things will never be excesses. Actually it can be just short and will come on need basis and just in time process. The worldly guru’s true spiritual wisdom can be missing. Doubts and problems in sadhana will never get clarified.

Of course some of the followers get impressed as follows.

  1. Mind reading – some times you will go with some question in the mind and they will answer it without your knowing and asking them.

  2. Some miraculous coincidences will happen which will make worldly success very easy by the guru. For example one man told me that he wanted to buy a bamboo flute. His guru had told some other disciple to sponsor money for the bamboo flute. He was very impressed. There was a woman who wanted to get a school admission for the child. She was told to meet some one when he was having his breakfast early in the morning, asked not to lie about the age of the child. The trustee was so impressed with the honesty he called up the school and asked the principal to make the admission. This is one of the few times he had called principal.

  3. Meeting them will always produce some good results.

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